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Why doesn't Leiter read Daily Nous?

Hu

239 day(s) ago

Seriously? His blog sometimes contains stories which have already appeared there, with an ostentatious h/t to some other source. I'd have thought it would be a lot more efficient just to read DN...

Al-Ghazali

239 day(s) ago

Why doesn't Whineberg read Leiter?

Alasdair

239 day(s) ago

Seriously? His blog sometimes contains stories which have already appeared there, with an ostentatious h/t to some other source. I'd have thought it would be a lot more efficient just to read DN...

Hu

Seems to go both ways, sometimes DN is first, sometimes BL is first. One thing I do notice is the major faculty moves usually appear first on the Leiter blog.

Moses

239 day(s) ago

Seems to go both ways, sometimes DN is first, sometimes BL is first. One thing I do notice is the major faculty moves usually appear first on the Leiter blog.

Alasdair

Yup.

If memory serves, there was a spat over the hiring news back when DN first came online. Unless that was with the other philosophy news site.

Hans

238 day(s) ago

Maybe Leiter doesn't read the Daily Nous for the same reasons I don't read the Daily Nous. There's a good chance there will be something stupid posted approvingly. If so, I'll probably want to comment on it. If I do, there will likely be infuriatingly confused responses from people who are religiously devoted to certain views for political, not genuinely philosophical, reasons. I'll then have to decide whether to just let it go, thus fostering the illusion that they're right, or keep responding to transparently bad points, which is an annoying waste of time. Then, of course, there's elaborate Kabuki of hyper-politeness... I'm all for more civil philosophical discussion. And the tone there is sometimes fine. But sometimes it just really creeps me out. Also, there so much flat-out dumbness there, even on the rare occasion that they're right, I find it hard to see/admit that. And this fills me with self-loathing.

(On the bright side, the voting on the comments tends to show that the readers are generally much more rational than the commenters.)

Porphyry

238 day(s) ago

Seriously, OP? Obviously, BL reads DN and JW reads LR. I would have thought the middle-school-level bullshit about not linking each other and ostentatiously crediting other sources was transparent to everyone. But never underestimate a philosophy professor when it comes to ignorance about basic human realities.

Jean

237 day(s) ago

BL has always thanked readers for "pointers" since forever or as long as I've been reading, which is way before DN came on the scene.

Anniceris

236 day(s) ago

Most bloggers hat-tip ("h/t"); it's a well-established practice. The ostentation, in the context of the utter impossibility that they don't keep up obsessively with one another's posts, is in the timing and in the fact that somehow neither has ever had occasion to tip his hat to the other.

Rudolf

236 day(s) ago

Most bloggers hat-tip ("h/t"); it's a well-established practice. The ostentation, in the context of the utter impossibility that they don't keep up obsessively with one another's posts, is in the timing and in the fact that somehow neither has ever had occasion to tip his hat to the other.

Anniceris

See https://www.google.com/search?q=%22via+Weinberg%22&btnG=%C2%BB&domains=leiterreports.typepad.com&sitesearch=leiterreports.typepad.com&gws_rd=ssl

Hippocrates

236 day(s) ago

Ah! Three times Leiter has h/t'ed DN, once each in 2014, 2015, & 2016! I will admit that these do not strike me as telling counterexamples. But there's no accounting for taste.

Stilpo

236 day(s) ago

I dunno, seem like telling counterexamples to the claim "neither has ever had occasion to tip his hat to the other."

Hippocrates

236 day(s) ago

But Stilpo, it's bad taste to construe the claim you quote as a strict universal affirmative in this context (and in many others). Good taste -- a hard thing to maintain in our discipline! -- adopts the strict "logical" construction only when there's some hint in the air that it's the best. There's no such hint here. Sorry!

Susanne

235 day(s) ago

wtf Hippocrates it's clearly meant as an exceptionless claim. you're on some weird trip of wanting to beat up on this group you belong to for being aspy - i.e. you're the twister and turner here. so it seems to me.

Helmuth

235 day(s) ago

Like I said: there's no accounting for taste (including in the liberal use of slurs -- tsk, tsk Susanne). But for those readers with terrible taste, let me write in a way you, too, can understand: when I say "there's no accounting for taste," I don't mean: there is no x such that x is an accounting for taste. Surely there is; I myself have offered a brief one already. I mean, rather: it's usually a waste of time to try to point out the obvious to people who cannot, and will not, see it. And yes, I know that in writing these comments I have myself wasted time in precisely that way. Life is sometimes frustrating, in my experience.

Ruefully,

Porphyry, Anniversary, Hippocrates, and whoever I turn out to be this time.

Helmuth

235 day(s) ago

Ah, auto-correct, you little bastard you: "Anniceris," not "Anniversary."

Zhuang

235 day(s) ago

>in writing these comments I have myself wasted time

A glow of self-awareness flickers and dies out.

Shri

234 day(s) ago

A glow flickers? Jesus fucking Christ.

Pedro

232 day(s) ago

Why doesn't the sun set first eastward?

Ito

232 day(s) ago

Because it sucks?

Gustav

4 day(s) ago

Because it sucks?

Ito

A bit crude, but you just might be onto something!



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