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Chih

24 day(s) ago

Pretty hard hit for Oxford that Brian Leftow will be gone next year. Why, do they pay so much more? Do they have a theology department that can be compared to that of Oxford? Has Oxford become too liberal?

Otto

24 day(s) ago

Rutgers pays A LOT more. Look up Rutgers salaries. Most senior faculty making around 250K, Sider more than 300K. No way Leftow gets anything like that at Oxford.

Jacques

24 day(s) ago

Not only will Rutgers pay more, the work load is significantly less. From what I've heard from people with knowledge of what life in Oxford is life, even the senior members of the department have significant teaching and administrative responsibilities that you wouldn't have at Rutgers. (I very much doubt that Leftow would leave Oxford for Rutgers because Oxford has become 'too liberal'. He's weird, but he's not an idiot.)

Chang

24 day(s) ago

Right: Rutgers pays around three times more + less admin and teaching + great students + great colleagues. This is a pretty easy choice.

Chang

24 day(s) ago

A more interesting question is: Who is on the short list for his replacement? Mike Rea?

Dorothy

24 day(s) ago

Plus you have the charms of New Brunswick right within your grasp.

Hasana

24 day(s) ago

A more interesting question is: Who is on the short list for his replacement? Mike Rea?

Chang

Beth Cykowski

Anaxarchus

24 day(s) ago

Op here. Do not know enough about Leftow political views/ how conservative as a CHristian he is, but I know that a lot of theologians decry that Oxford theology has gone too liberal.

Marie

24 day(s) ago

A more interesting question is: Who is on the short list for his replacement? Mike Rea?

Chang

Highly doubt Rea would leave what he has built at ND.

Fredric

24 day(s) ago

Plus you have the charms of New Brunswick right within your grasp.

Dorothy

Many, if not most, faculty live in NYC -- which is about an hour by train to New Brunswick. In fact, the train station is right next to the philosophy department. So the location really isn't bad at all.

Anicius

24 day(s) ago

Plus you have the charms of New Brunswick right within your grasp.

Dorothy

Many, if not most, faculty live in NYC -- which is about an hour by train to New Brunswick. In fact, the train station is right next to the philosophy department. So the location really isn't bad at all.

Fredric

That's curious. You would think that, as the good liberal they all are, they would want to be part of the local "community"?

Jacques

24 day(s) ago

Anicius isn't very smart.

Aksapada

24 day(s) ago

Anicius isn't very smart.

Jacques

That someone as dumb as me can see the hypocrisy should tell you something. But of course you know about it already; you just don't care. And that's the problem.

I'm sure everyone loves taking the train to campus to their cushy, well-paying professor job where they pontificate about social injustice over wine and cheese. Then when they leave, they can bloviate more on twitter, facebook, and their blogs from the comfort of their NYC apartment. I don't know where everyone back in New Brunswick would be without their activism.

Dorothy

24 day(s) ago

It was a fucking joke, people. Jesus Christ.

Aksapada

24 day(s) ago

It was a fucking joke, people. Jesus Christ.

Dorothy

No need to take God's name in vain. I know that kind of language is acceptable at the wine and cheese parties, but try not to let the noble professors defile you.

Aksapada

24 day(s) ago

A more interesting question is: Who is on the short list for his replacement? Mike Rea?

Chang

Highly doubt Rea would leave what he has built at ND.

Marie

Rea may not want to leave (I wouldn't know because I've never met him), but I'm sure Oxford would love to have him.

As a poster above has already noted, Oxford's theological tastes are, shall we say, rather unconventional. I see that in a recent paper Rea argues there's nothing amiss in referring to God the Father as a "she." Looks to me like Rea would fit right in at Oxford.

Jacques

24 day(s) ago

That someone as dumb as me can see the hypocrisy should tell you something. But of course you know about it already; you just don't care. And that's the problem.

I'm sure everyone loves taking the train to campus to their cushy, well-paying professor job where they pontificate about social injustice over wine and cheese. Then when they leave, they can bloviate more on twitter, facebook, and their blogs from the comfort of their NYC apartment. I don't know where everyone back in New Brunswick would be without their activism.

Aksapada

This is Hannity-level stupidity. Let me guess, Tully Borland is a friend?

Aksapada

24 day(s) ago

That someone as dumb as me can see the hypocrisy should tell you something. But of course you know about it already; you just don't care. And that's the problem.

I'm sure everyone loves taking the train to campus to their cushy, well-paying professor job where they pontificate about social injustice over wine and cheese. Then when they leave, they can bloviate more on twitter, facebook, and their blogs from the comfort of their NYC apartment. I don't know where everyone back in New Brunswick would be without their activism.

Aksapada

This is Hannity-level stupidity. Let me guess, Tully Borland is a friend?

Jacques

You still interpret reality in terms of whether someone appears to accept--or reject--what Sean Hannity says? You're still buying the Democrat vs Republican charade? That's all very juvenile. I thought everyone knows that the CIA owes corporate media and that elections are fake.

But since you don't know that, do some Internet browsing, bone up on the facts, and then you'll really have something fascinating to discuss with your colleagues at the next wine and cheese gathering.

Alice

24 day(s) ago

That someone as dumb as me can see the hypocrisy should tell you something. But of course you know about it already; you just don't care. And that's the problem.

I'm sure everyone loves taking the train to campus to their cushy, well-paying professor job where they pontificate about social injustice over wine and cheese. Then when they leave, they can bloviate more on twitter, facebook, and their blogs from the comfort of their NYC apartment. I don't know where everyone back in New Brunswick would be without their activism.

Aksapada

This is Hannity-level stupidity. Let me guess, Tully Borland is a friend?

Jacques

Your dye-job is showing.

Margaret

24 day(s) ago

I took a quick look at the Rutger faculty page. Man, totally brutal. It looks like a line-up from a psych ward. Why Leftow would want to subject himself to it, I have no idea. On the other hand, already having had to deal with all the well-adjusted folks at Oxford should have prepared him for what it looks like he's getting himself into.

I'm beginning to think the reason these two faculties can swap faculty so easily is that you have to be dead inside to be at other place, so everyone already knows that you'll be a great addition and won't rock the boat.

Virginia

24 day(s) ago

Oh, and you have to love Zimmerman's clever shirt. How cute. Good to know that someone in his position hasn't let self-indulgence override his better judgment.

Giambattista

24 day(s) ago

Margaret, there are many great philosophers at Rutgers. What's your problem with their faculty? I don't get your psych ward reference.

Adi

24 day(s) ago

Margaret, there are many great philosophers at Rutgers. What's your problem with their faculty? I don't get your psych ward reference.

Giambattista

I don't have a problem with them--I'm just stating my impressions. I know people who have studied there who have told me horror stories. And just looking at the faculty mugshots gives me the creeps--again, that's just my impression. Then there's the Zimmerman shirt, which I'm sure he thinks is very funny, but is worthy of an eye-roll.

Giambattista

24 day(s) ago

What's wrong with Zimmerman's t-shirt? It's got a rock logo on it, but he's a long-time musician (he plays in a local punk band). I roll my eyes instead at you for trusting vague second-hand horror stories and then passing along your subjective feelings of being creeped out.

Margaret

24 day(s) ago

What's wrong with Zimmerman's t-shirt? It's got a rock logo on it, but he's a long-time musician (he plays in a local punk band). I roll my eyes instead at you for trusting vague second-hand horror stories and then passing along your subjective feelings of being creeped out.

Giambattista

I don't like his shirt: not everyone doesn't know about cricket.

Margaret

24 day(s) ago

What's wrong with Zimmerman's t-shirt? It's got a rock logo on it, but he's a long-time musician (he plays in a local punk band). I roll my eyes instead at you for trusting vague second-hand horror stories and then passing along your subjective feelings of being creeped out.

Giambattista

By the way, how do you know they are vague?

Monique

23 day(s) ago

It's kind of sad that Oxford pays like shit, no? Whose fault is that?

Motoori

23 day(s) ago

Femphils have attacked Rutgers for years, but never have anything to offer other than bluster. It's one of the strongest remaining uncompromisingly analytic departments.

This latest thing - criticizing the department because one faculty member is wearing a t-shirt under his shirt and that t-shirt is apparently subpar for unclear reasons - is just incredibly dumb. Mere jealousy, I expect.

Leucippus

23 day(s) ago

Yeah, I don't get what's supposed to be wrong about Rutgers at all, especially what's supposed to be wrong with it that is somehow exemplified by Zimmerman's shirt. Nor do I understand what's supposed to be wrong about commuting from NY.

I mean, I guess this forum is full of nut jobs, so maybe the answer is: nothing.

Margaret

23 day(s) ago

Yeah, I don't get what's supposed to be wrong about Rutgers at all, especially what's supposed to be wrong with it that is somehow exemplified by Zimmerman's shirt. Nor do I understand what's supposed to be wrong about commuting from NY.

I mean, I guess this forum is full of nut jobs, so maybe the answer is: nothing.

Leucippus

Sleep soundly. Ignorance is bliss.

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