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Professional Philosopher Logic--if you don't like what you find, just explain it away

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2017/12/what-is-your-opinion-of-abortion.html

Leiter doesn't receive the response he expects, so what to do? Dismiss the results with the self-serving interpretation that they must be due to "anti-abortion crazies in cyberspace." How sick a mind must one have to simply assume, without further ado, that "philosophically-minded readers" couldn't possibly actually think that killing the unborn is wrong?

Dorothy

26 day(s) ago

Leiter's gonna Leiter.

Piero

26 day(s) ago

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2017/12/what-is-your-opinion- of-abortion.html

Leiter doesn't receive the response he expects, so what to do? Dismiss the results with the self-serving interpretation that they must be due to "anti-abortion crazies in cyberspace." How sick a mind must one have to simply assume, without further ado, that "philosophically-minded readers" couldn't possibly actually think that killing the unborn is wrong?

Bonaventure

Have you ever met professional philosophers? Do you really think 50% of them think abortion is akin to the Holocaust? Anyway, it didn't take much effort to determine that Leiter was correct: https://www.facebook.com/DankProLifeMemes/posts/394514877652392

Nishitani

26 day(s) ago

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2017/12/what-is-your-opinion-of-abortion.html

Leiter doesn't receive the response he expects, so what to do? Dismiss the results with the self-serving interpretation that they must be due to "anti-abortion crazies in cyberspace." How sick a mind must one have to simply assume, without further ado, that "philosophically-minded readers" couldn't possibly actually think that killing the unborn is wrong?

Bonaventure

Have you ever met professional philosophers? Do you really think 50% of them think abortion is akin to the Holocaust? Anyway, it didn't take much effort to determine that Leiter was correct: https://www.facebook.com/DankProLifeMemes/posts/394514877652392

Piero

I have met professional philosophers. That's why I know that only people as lost and warped as many of them could ever conclude it's those who think killing the unborn is wrong are the crazy ones--and then to pat themselves on the back for being "philosophically-minded" for judging so! It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.What a monster of a human being you have to become to think and live like that. No one wonder hardly anyone cares to read what they say--it isn't worth reading.

Øystein

26 day(s) ago

But that wasn't the question. The poll was rigged. Right to shut it down.

Nishitani

26 day(s) ago

But that wasn't the question. The poll was rigged. Right to shut it down.

Øystein

You don't seem to see that, even in conceding you were right, I've highlighted the deeper point that always mattered more: Leiter thinks he's somehow vindicating the reason of professional philosophy by do narrating that professional philosophers do in fact think those who disagree with killing the unborn are "crazy." Let that sink in for a bit, and consider how gone someone would have to be to think he's doing well for himself and his profession, when that's what he considers a vindication of it. Just total darkness.

Nishitani

26 day(s) ago

It's like being proud of yourself for admitting that you do indeed beat your wife.

Tyler

26 day(s) ago

Rightly Considered freaks have taken over here. It's absolutely clear that BL was trying to juxtapose the philosophical consensus on abortion (not a Holocaust) with the philosophical consensus on factory farming (a Holocaust).

Also, you do have to be really crazy to want to invade a poll on an obscure blog for philosophers.

Tyler

26 day(s) ago

Speaking of crazies, who goes to the trouble to like their own comment 100+ times?

Nishitani

26 day(s) ago

Rightly Considered freaks have taken over here. It's absolutely clear that BL was trying to juxtapose the philosophical consensus on abortion (not a Holocaust) with the philosophical consensus on factory farming (a Holocaust).

Also, you do have to be really crazy to want to invade a poll on an obscure blog for philosophers.

Tyler

And I think you are the crazy one. You congratulate yourself for thinking it right to tear a child from the womb, suck out her brains, dismember her, and then throw in the garbage the remainder of what you can't sell.

But I guess that's what makes us different. You don't see it because you're so far gone into the void, but you're the freak.

Øystein

26 day(s) ago

If the 'deeper point' is worth highlighting, then do it. Right now, you come off like a loon. And I'm probably on your 'team' about more than most around here.

But that wasn't the question. The poll was rigged. Right to shut it down.

Øystein

You don't seem to see that, even in conceding you were right, I've highlighted the deeper point that always mattered more: Leiter thinks he's somehow vindicating the reason of professional philosophy by do narrating that professional philosophers do in fact think those who disagree with killing the unborn are "crazy." Let that sink in for a bit, and consider how gone someone would have to be to think he's doing well for himself and his profession, when that's what he considers a vindication of it. Just total darkness.

Nishitani

Nishitani

26 day(s) ago

If the 'deeper point' is worth highlighting, then do it. Right now, you come off like a loon. And I'm probably on your 'team' about more than most around here.

But that wasn't the question. The poll was rigged. Right to shut it down.

Øystein

You don't seem to see that, even in conceding you were right, I've highlighted the deeper point that always mattered more: Leiter thinks he's somehow vindicating the reason of professional philosophy by do narrating that professional philosophers do in fact think those who disagree with killing the unborn are "crazy." Let that sink in for a bit, and consider how gone someone would have to be to think he's doing well for himself and his profession, when that's what he considers a vindication of it. Just total darkness.

Nishitani

Øystein

I have already highlighted the point, but I'll do so:

To tout a poll result that shows your profession thinks killing unborn children is fine isn't a vindication of that profession; that's an indictment of it. But I don't expect Leiter to see that.

Pierre

26 day(s) ago

... I thought this would be about factory farming...

Which I think is wrong, but I'm not a vegetarian.

Øystein

26 day(s) ago

You should have led with that. Instead you made it seem the integrity of the poll is what mattered.

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

You should have led with that. Instead you made it seem the integrity of the poll is what mattered.

Øystein

It was a trap.

Sidney

26 day(s) ago

Leiter is supposed to be the nietzsche fan boy, too. What a faggot.

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

Leiter is supposed to be the nietzsche fan boy, too. What a faggot.

Sidney

Hi, Brian. Poisoning the well?

Raymond

26 day(s) ago

Nishitani is proof that this forum has become infested with non-philosopher right-wing trolls.

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

Nishitani is proof that this forum has become infested with non-philosopher right-wing trolls.

Raymond

Hi, Brian.

Domingo

26 day(s) ago

Would that Bonaventure had been aborted--just like the vast majority of those in the world hatefully raised or neglected from the birth canal to spread mythologized hatred, ignorance, and violence.

I'd pity you except for the obvious privilege you have to use this paltry forum to self-aggrandize your already puffed-up excuse for a civilized personality.

It does not speak well for the forum that your ilk have run of it.

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

Would that Bonaventure had been aborted--just like the vast majority of those in the world hatefully raised or neglected from the birth canal to spread mythologized hatred, ignorance, and violence.

I'd pity you except for the obvious privilege you have to use this paltry forum to self-aggrandize your already puffed-up excuse for a civilized personality.

It does not speak well for the forum that your ilk have run of it.

Domingo

Your tone of detached erudition is rather strained. I take it that you're quite the seminar hero.

Tell me: do you have a Chair yet, or are you still only an assistant professor? Or perhaps even just an unrecognized-- though note very precocious!--graduate student?

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

Domingo, please, would you do more than downvote my last comment?

Please, regale all of us with the stories from the seminar and workshops and lectures, of all the many times you've drawn an impressive distinction in the heat of serious discussion, dazzling everyone that was in attendance with your enviable wit and supple mind? Oh, to have been there myself! I can only imagine.

Terry

26 day(s) ago

Yes, all the subtleties of (e.g.) Judy Thomson's work on this topic are worthless demonstrations of her own moral inferiority in the powerful illumination of your conservative ad hominem table- thumping. Congratulations - you win philosophy!

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

Yes, all the subtleties of (e.g.) Judy Thomson's work on this topic are worthless demonstrations of her own moral inferiority in the powerful illumination of your conservative ad hominem table-thumping. Congratulations - you win philosophy!

Terry

I just breezed through a summary of her position. I see why you'd like it. According to Thomson, the mother aborting her baby does not normally violate the baby's right to life, but merely withdraws the baby's use of her own body, which usually causes the baby to die.

That certainly is a very clever and subtle distinction. I see why you'd recommend her work to me--as I already mentioned a few posts above, you obviously live for distinctions. And that is sad. Because you're lost in the darkness of foolish imaginations. Look where you are: you're looking to some random philosophy professor's thought-experiments as a defense for concluding that's it's okay to kill a baby. That's the kind of stuff that seminar heroes thrive on, and it's exactly what is going to put you into perdition if you don't come to your senses and realize that your entire perspective on life is myopic and depraved.

Houston

26 day(s) ago

There's something deeply wrong with people who can only consider killing an unborn baby through a consideration of rights or utilities or the other nonsense that preoccupies most of the weirdos populating philosophy departments.

Bonaventure

26 day(s) ago

There's something deeply wrong with people who can only consider killing an unborn baby through a consideration of rights or utilities or the other nonsense that preoccupies most of the weirdos populating philosophy departments.

Houston

Yes.

And you want to know the most twisted part? They take satisfaction in doing just what you describe precisely because, deep down, they know how wrong it is. They actually love the darkness. They find the shadows exhilarating--that's how defective they are.

Josiah

25 day(s) ago

There's something deeply wrong with people who can only consider killing an unborn baby through a consideration of rights or utilities or the other nonsense that preoccupies most of the weirdos populating philosophy departments.

Houston

Yes.

And you want to know the most twisted part? They take satisfaction in doing just what you describe precisely because, deep down, they know how wrong it is. They actually love the darkness. They find the shadows exhilarating--that's how defective they are.

Bonaventure

Whatever.

Xenophon

25 day(s) ago

Houston, we have a problem.

Monique

25 day(s) ago

112 upvotes in 12 hours. lol

Edith

25 day(s) ago

Is the invasion by non-philosophers? Or by dumb philosophers?

Can't tell. Suspect it's the former.

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