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The Weinberg List

Peter

9 day(s) ago

There's already a crowd-sourced compendium of thousands of stories about sexual harassment and abuse in academia, care of The Professor is In. Many of these stories are about philosophy; just search the spreadsheet for "philosophy" to find those:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S9KShDLvU7C-KkgEevYTHXr3F6InTenrBsS9yk-8C5M/edit#gid=1530077352

Harriet

9 day(s) ago

Well well, I wonder who #1217 is.

Domingo

9 day(s) ago

Well well, I wonder who #1217 is.

Harriet

Good money says that'll be gone soon.

Stephen

9 day(s) ago

There are so many things I wish I could say, Harriet, but I can't...

Otto

9 day(s) ago

There are so many things I wish I could say, Harriet, but I can't...

Stephen

Fascinating. Are you sure you can't share those things here? Do you have facts to share that would compromise your own anonymity? One regular poster here may be able to help you with that.

Stephen

9 day(s) ago

What do you mean about somebody here being able to help me with my anonymity?

Voltaire

9 day(s) ago

Another interesting report from that spreadsheet:

"This is not an example of sexual harassment, but I've included it as it's a hard-to-categorise example of how young female students of colour may be taken advantage of sexually. It's a long story with some terrible details, but here's a summary (which is still quite long).

"I am an East Asian female graduate student, who began a close polyamorous relationship with a white male graduate student in my first year of studies (Fall 2015). He is three years senior to me, and is writing his dissertation on feminism. It started off as a good relationship, and he was only seeing me when we became involved. I had no reason not to trust him (he expressed very radical and progressive views on race, feminism, and sexuality), and was happy for him to begin seeing other people.

"But in the short span of a few months, it slowly but surely escalated into a situation where he was (1) sleeping with two other East Asian women on campus, (2) had slept with two other East Asian women on trips overseas, and (3) was sexting a half-Asian woman who was in another country. Before meeting, he had also been involved with several Asian woman. One of them was an female undergraduate in philosophy he saw when he was already a graduate student, and their relationship ended terribly for her.

"The fetishistic nature of all of this slowly got to me, and it was emotionally devastating as he was someone I had come to trust. Our relationship deteriorated and ended very badly. There was a lot of gaslighting involved, and many attempts to make me feel guilty and blame the other women involved, but I eventually realised that he was the one with the problem.

"The relationship ended extremely badly, and I developed PTSD shortly afterwards. I was afraid to be on campus and in my department, for fear of seeing him and the other women on campus. He also lives right next to the department (his room can be seen a short distance away from the main entrance). The PTSD was debilitating, and has affected me from Spring 2016 to now (Fall 2017). It set back my work and personal life in many ways. Amongst other symptoms, I had multiple panic attacks daily. My mental health problems were exacerbated by my knowledge that he was literally being paid to do research on feminism.

"As no crime or policy violation had been committed, the department could do nothing other than to offer me psychological support, and extensions on incomplete work. I am thankful for them. After a long journey, I was finally told a week ago by my therapist that I no longer fit the diagnostic criteria for PTSD. There is still work to be done, and it is still difficult to sit in the same room as him as I am often forced to do. But I am proud of the progress I've made, and look forward to getting even better."

And then:

"I received a fair amount of social support from my fellow graduate students after the fallout, who, unknown to me at the time of the relationship, were nervous on my behalf as they knew of his racial fetish. My professors' hands were tied, and some of them were on his dissertation committee. But some of them privately offered me enormous amounts of personal psychological support, for which I'm grateful. My professors were also understanding of my three unresolved Incomplete grades for seminars I took."

Voltaire

9 day(s) ago

Highlights:

1) I don't know what went wrong; he paid lip service to progressive values.

2) He seems to have a type. Somehow this is harmful.

3) All of this was apparently aired thoroughly with faculty in the department.

And JW thinks he can simply act as a coordinator for connecting people raising these very simple complaints.

Ian

9 day(s) ago

What do you mean about somebody here being able to help me with my anonymity?

Stephen

Someone who posts here volunteered on another thread to help another poster file an anonymous report on misconduct by a philosopher. They seemed eager to help, and might help you too. If that person is reading this thread, maybe they can say more.

T'ang

9 day(s) ago

This is all so unnervingly East German.

Dickinson

8 day(s) ago

Would you find transgender women peeing in the ladies' room more acceptable if they shaved? I'm sure many do...

PS: seems like you want to be on the Against Weinberg side, which I think is the right one in this case. In case you don't know: saying shitty, overly provocative things like the above doesn't help your side. It just makes it harder for them not to look like raving, resentful jerks.

Anaximander

8

Saying "shitty, overly provocative things" as you put it in Vernacular Millennial is neither help nor hindrance to "my side".

My "side" is that the academy is run by - not to say exclusively constituted by - overly sensitive, immature, censorious, malevolently cruel and clueless faggots who have collectively overseen the destruction of the academy to the point that it is almost beyond saving.

It's at a tipping point now, to the extent that I'd rather say mean things and enjoy the laughs than make the attempt to save an institution that sees its primary aim as catering to recent generations of narcissistic women and men so devoid of personality that they may as well be.

Hassan

8 day(s) ago

Too bad you're not funny, then.

Lord

8 day(s) ago

Justin Weinberg is drunk on the perception of power and influence. His proposal, with himself quite literally at the center, embodies the problem.

Hilary

Yes. The Schliesser Megalomaniac Grandstandig Syndrome.

Antiphon

8 day(s) ago

Schliesser Personality Disorder (SPD)

Antiphon

8 day(s) ago

Would it be cruel to diagnose Stanley with Schliesser Personality Disorder? Or should we give Stanley the naming rights? It's still SPD.

Gilles

8 day(s) ago

Would it be cruel to diagnose Stanley with Schliesser Personality Disorder? Or should we give Stanley the naming rights? It's still SPD.

Antiphon

No way, Schliesser takes the prize. His position are far crazier, and besides, at least Stanley has contributed something to philosophy and isn't known just because of his blog.

Kenneth

8 day(s) ago

It occurs to me that there's a really nefarious use to this, because Weinberg proposes to put victims in touch with one another. Suppose I'm a lecherous prof. I create an email address as "Jane" and email a complaint about Professor Kenneth to the list. Then, if others have complained about Professor Kenneth, I learn who they are and can communicate with them. That would be bad!

Hippolyte

8 day(s) ago

It occurs to me that there's a really nefarious use to this, because Weinberg proposes to put victims in touch with one another. Suppose I'm a lecherous prof. I create an email address as "Jane" and email a complaint about Professor Kenneth to the list. Then, if others have complained about Professor Kenneth, I learn who they are and can communicate with them. That would be bad!

Kenneth

I can also see MRA's from sites like these submitting fake stories and then being put in touch with actual victims. I disagree with those who think JW was doing this as some sort of self-serving power grab. Regardless of whether anyone is ever falsely accused, people do get harassed in the field on a regular basis, and it's not inconceivable that some folks care about finding ways to help address what are complex and thorny issues.

Practically, what do you all think are the best ways to show regard for both victims and those who may be (rarely but potentially) falsely accused? I'm so tired of hearing from anti-SJW's about the dangers of falsely accusing men with no regard for the harms done to those who experience harassment and violence. Perhaps "SJW's" also fail to show adequate regard for those who may be falsely accused. So what is the answer? Barring an adequate solution, I guess we have to just take it on a case by case basis. Those who choose to err on the side of believing the accused, what do you recommend actual victims do?

Edith

8 day(s) ago

I dunno, it all sounds a bit like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house to me.

Hippolyte

8 day(s) ago

I dunno, it all sounds a bit like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house to me.

Edith

Is there some evidence that JW is a harasser? Or in what sense do you see him as a wolf in this context?

Sally

8 day(s) ago

Hippolyte, are you seriously uninformed about JW's bad behavior online and the abundant evidence of his lack of good sense? I guess you are new here.

I dunno, it all sounds a bit like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house to me.

Edith

Is there some evidence that JW is a harasser? Or in what sense do you see him as a wolf in this context?

Hippolyte

Sally

8 day(s) ago

Here's a summary: He is a preening jackass constantly on the wrong side of professional issues.

Ernest

8 day(s) ago

Practically, what do you all think are the best ways to show regard for both victims and those who may be (rarely but potentially) falsely accused? I'm so tired of hearing from anti-SJW's about the dangers of falsely accusing men with no regard for the harms done to those who experience harassment and violence. Perhaps "SJW's" also fail to show adequate regard for those who may be falsely accused. So what is the answer? Barring an adequate solution, I guess we have to just take it on a case by case basis. Those who choose to err on the side of believing the accused, what do you recommend actual victims do?

Hippolyte

Dismantle the universities and send all the neotenous clowns attracted to it into the military or public works projects until they get their heads on right.

Sergei

8 day(s) ago

Here's a summary: He is a preening jackass constantly on the wrong side of professional issues.

Sally

Good to see even Sally Haslanger recognizes that!

Yamuna

8 day(s) ago

Putting yourself in charge of the accuser database seems like an excellent way to prevent accusations against you or your friends from seeing the light of day, don't you think? Just sayin'.

Kit

8 day(s) ago

Just imagine the outrage that would have erupted if *Leiter* proposed to put himself in control of the profession's harrassment/assault database. There is no credible reason to be against that (obviously wrongheaded) proposal that doesn't extend to the one that an unnervingly large number of people seem to be taking seriously.

Claude

8 day(s) ago

Practically, what do you all think are the best ways to show regard for both victims and those who may be (rarely but potentially) falsely accused? I'm so tired of hearing from anti-SJW's about the dangers of falsely accusing men with no regard for the harms done to those who experience harassment and violence. Perhaps "SJW's" also fail to show adequate regard for those who may be falsely accused. So what is the answer? Barring an adequate solution, I guess we have to just take it on a case by case basis. Those who choose to err on the side of believing the accused, what do you recommend actual victims do?

Hippolyte

Dismantle the universities and send all the neotenous clowns attracted to it into the military or public works projects until they get their heads on right.

Ernest

Perfect.

There are no jackasses in the military, and definitely no sexual harassment.

Muro

8 day(s) ago

Interesting that you ignored both the point that whining about sexual harassment is part of the culture of one upping that is itself the problem, and that there is such a thing as a life outside the university wherein one becomes a coddled baby unable to deal with the stark and often messy realities of contact with other human beings.

I would swear that most of you sjw types aren't humans so much mass produced human like substitutes, intended as the perfect stooge for modern consumerism. Mission accomplished.

Rafael

7 day(s) ago

I dunno, it all sounds a bit like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house to me.

Edith

Is there some evidence that JW is a harasser? Or in what sense do you see him as a wolf in this context?

Hippolyte

Justin Weinberg sexually harassed me at the APA. Since my accusation constitutes evidence, there is now evidence that Justin Weinberg is a harasser.

Paul

7 day(s) ago

I would swear that most of you sjw types aren't humans so much mass produced human like substitutes, intended as the perfect stooge for modern consumerism. Mission accomplished.

Muro

They're humans, but they are profoundly sick. They will run their countries into the ground: US, UK, Australia, Germany, Sweden, and maybe more. These countries are dead countries walking.

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