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Fads and their survival

Gilles

23 day(s) ago

Hating on Rawls is itself a growing industry. Lots of young talent doing non-ideal blah blah.

Solomon

Oh yes. The silly fashion for "realism" in political philosophy (which nobody is actually able to give a satisfactory account of) is just a vehicle for the self- promotion of a few mediocrities.

Vauvenargues

Or rather, if you put all your eggs in the Rawlsian basket you're right to be scared. It was always BS and now that the emperor is dead it can be called out.

Fazang

23 day(s) ago

Pitt is sort of the department-level version of a fading fad

Hannah

That's a good one. But what does that make Chicago?

Hu

23 day(s) ago

Hating on Rawls is itself a growing industry. Lots of young talent doing non-ideal blah blah.

Solomon

Oh yes. The silly fashion for "realism" in political philosophy (which nobody is actually able to give a satisfactory account of) is just a vehicle for the self-promotion of a few mediocrities.

Vauvenargues

Or rather, if you put all your eggs in the Rawlsian basket you're right to be scared. It was always BS and now that the emperor is dead it can be called out.

Gilles

If I had put all my eggs in the Rawlsian basket .....

But seriously calling Rawls BS is like people who say the Beatles are "overrated". When he's wrong, he's often interestingly wrong. I don't have to agree with someone to recognize their quality. Sure, some of the Rawlsian industry has been faddish, especially the endless tedious papers on some micro-aspect of "public reason", But "realism", seriously, what is there? One interesting paper by Bernard Williams, a load of ill-informed venting by Raymond Geuss and then a few nonentities trying to launch their -ism.

Charles

21 day(s) ago

Hating on Rawls is itself a growing industry. Lots of young talent doing non-ideal blah blah.

Solomon

Oh yes. The silly fashion for "realism" in political philosophy (which nobody is actually able to give a satisfactory account of) is just a vehicle for the self-promotion of a few mediocrities.

Vauvenargues

Or rather, if you put all your eggs in the Rawlsian basket you're right to be scared. It was always BS and now that the emperor is dead it can be called out.

Gilles

Sure. I'm scared. The masses are taking back what was rightly theirs. Perhaps I'm terrified.

Jean-Baptiste

20 day(s) ago

Hating on Rawls is itself a growing industry. Lots of young talent doing non-ideal blah blah.

Solomon

Oh yes. The silly fashion for "realism" in political philosophy (which nobody is actually able to give a satisfactory account of) is just a vehicle for the self-promotion of a few mediocrities.

Vauvenargues

Or rather, if you put all your eggs in the Rawlsian basket you're right to be scared. It was always BS and now that the emperor is dead it can be called out.

Gilles

If I had put all my eggs in the Rawlsian basket .....

But seriously calling Rawls BS is like people who say the Beatles are "overrated". When he's wrong, he's often interestingly wrong. I don't have to agree with someone to recognize their quality. Sure, some of the Rawlsian industry has been faddish, especially the endless tedious papers on some micro-aspect of "public reason", But "realism", seriously, what is there? One interesting paper by Bernard Williams, a load of ill-informed venting by Raymond Geuss and then a few nonentities trying to launch their -ism.

Hu

Clearly you either don't see the upshot of realism's critique of Rawlsianism and high liberalism, or you haven't read most of it. Rawlsian liberalism has been responsible for the narrowing of political philosophy to a select few arcane issues, to its detriment.

Jean-Baptiste

20 day(s) ago

Hating on Rawls is itself a growing industry. Lots of young talent doing non-ideal blah blah.

Solomon

Oh yes. The silly fashion for "realism" in political philosophy (which nobody is actually able to give a satisfactory account of) is just a vehicle for the self-promotion of a few mediocrities.

Vauvenargues

Or rather, if you put all your eggs in the Rawlsian basket you're right to be scared. It was always BS and now that the emperor is dead it can be called out.

Gilles

If I had put all my eggs in the Rawlsian basket .....

But seriously calling Rawls BS is like people who say the Beatles are "overrated". When he's wrong, he's often interestingly wrong. I don't have to agree with someone to recognize their quality. Sure, some of the Rawlsian industry has been faddish, especially the endless tedious papers on some micro-aspect of "public reason", But "realism", seriously, what is there? One interesting paper by Bernard Williams, a load of ill-informed venting by Raymond Geuss and then a few nonentities trying to launch their -ism.

Hu

And the Beatles are overrated.

Kumazawa

20 day(s) ago

Powers

Hermann

20 day(s) ago

Epistemic modals.

Ilkka

20 day(s) ago

Daniel Kaufman

Paracelsus

20 day(s) ago

And the Beatles are overrated.

Jean-Baptiste

The Beatles are underrated.

Cleomedes

20 day(s) ago

And the Beatles are overrated.

Jean-Baptiste

The Beatles are underrated.

Paracelsus

Aye, topping various lists for number one album of all time makes a band very underrated.

Especially when they recycled Chuck Berry riffs and piled on Charles Dickens style fluff.

Only one person involved with that lot is underrated, and it's George Martin.

Hasana

20 day(s) ago

No, no, no, you're wrong.

Zhiyi

20 day(s) ago

Philosophers ranking movies, music, and so on. One of the geekiest and most annoying facebook fads

Ho

19 day(s) ago

Clearly you either don't see the upshot of realism's critique of Rawlsianism and high liberalism, or you haven't read most of it. Rawlsian liberalism has been responsible for the narrowing of political philosophy to a select few arcane issues, to its detriment.

Sure, there was a moment, or even a period, when everything was Rawlsiana, but that's long-since past. Nonentity "realists" have FA to do with its passing.

Angela

19 day(s) ago

Clearly you either don't see the upshot of realism's critique of Rawlsianism and high liberalism, or you haven't read most of it. Rawlsian liberalism has been responsible for the narrowing of political philosophy to a select few arcane issues, to its detriment.

Sure, there was a moment, or even a period, when everything was Rawlsiana, but that's long-since past. Nonentity "realists" have FA to do with its passing.

Ho

Who does then?

I love all this talk of nonentities, by the way: the Harvard/Oxford aristocracy complaining that people without the right pedigree are getting attention.

Hervaeus

19 day(s) ago

Rawls was good. The Rawlsians are terrible.

Colin

19 day(s) ago

Daniel Kaufman's self-imposed exile from Daily Nous: a fad that was too good to last.

Kevin

19 day(s) ago

Harvard/Oxford aristocracy complaining

Nonentities are always projecting such identities onto their critics.

Geoffrey

19 day(s) ago

Daniel Kaufman's self-imposed exile from Daily Nous: a fad that was too good to last.

Colin

I know, wouldn't it be great if the new consensus could accuse people of racism without any objections!

James

19 day(s) ago

Daniel Kaufman's self-imposed exile from Daily Nous: a fad that was too good to last.

Colin

Hi Justin.

Colin

19 day(s) ago

LOL!!!!! Yes, Geoffrey, only Daniel Kaufman could possibly save us.

Geoffrey

19 day(s) ago

Looollll!!!!!11!1 Yes, Colin, only the New Consensus could possibly purge us of all the racist sexist things we think.

Ernest

19 day(s) ago

Clearly you either don't see the upshot of realism's critique of Rawlsianism and high liberalism, or you haven't read most of it. Rawlsian liberalism has been responsible for the narrowing of political philosophy to a select few arcane issues, to its detriment.

Sure, there was a moment, or even a period, when everything was Rawlsiana, but that's long-since past. Nonentity "realists" have FA to do with its passing.

Ho

Yeah, Bernard Williams is such a nonentity.

Mahatma

19 day(s) ago

Daniel Kaufman's self-imposed exile from Daily Nous: a fad that was too good to last.

Colin

He'd voluntarily withdrawn himself from DN? How did I miss that?

Roderick

18 day(s) ago

Clearly you either don't see the upshot of realism's critique of Rawlsianism and high liberalism, or you haven't read most of it. Rawlsian liberalism has been responsible for the narrowing of political philosophy to a select few arcane issues, to its detriment.

Sure, there was a moment, or even a period, when everything was Rawlsiana, but that's long-since past. Nonentity "realists" have FA to do with its passing.

Ho

Yeah, Bernard Williams is such a nonentity.

Ernest

And this is the problem of the political realists, visible even in this thread: they don’t have any living big shots to cover their asses and promote them, given than Geuss is totally disengaged.


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