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Check Your Syllabus

Clarembald

9 day(s) ago

I am dismayed to see that so many syllabi still assign readings from the likes of Searle and McGinn and Pogge. This is a request that we reflect on what we are doing when we assign work by these men. In the first place, imagine how traumatizing it must be for students to have to read this work. To most female students, being forced to read about the (racist) Chinese Room will be equivalent to being told a dirty joke by an old man. Having to read about McGinn's mysterianism will be like having to go canoeing and holding hands with an old man. Reading Pogge on social justice will be like having to be in a regretted seven year relationship with a German man. In effect, reading such poisonous work amounts to a form of sexual assault for every female student that is exposed to it.

There are other worthy ideas to teach. First, there are plenty of other analytic philosophers to chose from (Michael Tye and Jason Stanley, for example). And you can do even better by looking at more feminism friendly continental philosophers such as Heidegger and Sartre. We can do better. We must do better. Think of the students.

Lysander

9 day(s) ago

The OP is a very poor attempt at satire.

Plotinus

9 day(s) ago

I laughed

Mao

9 day(s) ago

Beauvoir and Sartre were pedophiles who groomed and molested schoolgirls.

Fujiwara

9 day(s) ago

Check your syllabus privilege.

George

9 day(s) ago

Interesting book by one of Sartre and de Beauvoir's victims:

https://www.amazon.fr/M%C3%A9moires-dune- jeune-fille-d%C3%A9rang%C3%A9e/dp/2715809948/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510324384&sr=1-3&keywords=une+fille+d%C3%A9rang%C3%A9e

English:

https://www.amazon.com/Disgraceful-Affair-Beauvoir-Jean-Paul-Lamblin/dp/1555532519/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510324521&sr=1-1&keywords=a+disgraceful+affair

Chou

9 day(s) ago

Sartre and Beauvoir were serial sexual abusers, who make Weinstein look like a boy scout.

But the social justice crowd covers up the grooming and serial sexual abuse of children by Sartre and Beauvoir.

Øystein

9 day(s) ago

But the social justice crowd covers up the grooming and serial sexual abuse of children by Sartre and Beauvoir.

Chou

Citation?

Cornel

9 day(s) ago

Which feminist course has banned the child molester Beauvoir from its syllabi?

Hervaeus

9 day(s) ago

Which feminist course has banned the child molester Beauvoir from its syllabi?

Nice try, but consent is complicated. This issue has been thoroughly studied and the consensus has been that the relations involving Sartre and his paramours (with the assistance of Beauvoir) were consensual. They were not at all like the more recent cases in philosophy where the survivors definitely lacked agency given the huge power differentials.

Nelson

9 day(s) ago

Beauvoir kidnapped a schoolgirl and was banned from teaching at Lycees.

She sexually groomed and molested schoolgirls.

Hervaeus

8 day(s) ago

Again, the consensus is that those "schoolgirls" as you call them consented. You absolutely cannot compare these cases to the women in philosophy like Lauren Leydon-Hardy, where there was a CLEAR lack of agency.

Thomas

8 day(s) ago

The OP is utter garbage. Hopefully it is satire.

Ludwig

8 day(s) ago

Clarembald = Hervaeus = finally a competent troll!

Please continue.

Guan

8 day(s) ago

Beauvoir, a powerful philosophy professor, groomed and sexually molested schoolgirls. Because of her sexual predation on schoolgirls, Beauvoir was banned from teaching at Lycees in 1943 for "corruption of a minor"/

These were victims of a sexual predator: Beauvoir.

When is Beauvoir going to removed from feminist syllabi for grooming and raping schoolgirls?

Hervaeus

8 day(s) ago

I should add that the case against Stubblefield is just as fatuous as the case against de Beauvoir. I think people here are suffering from their lack of attention to recent work in the epistemology of rape. Consent is a complicated thing, but the field has reached consensus that that the students of de Beauvoir and the research colleague of Stubblefield consented to those relationships. In neither case do we see the lack of agency that we see in someone like Lauren Leydon-Hardy, for example. And no I'm not trolling. This is in point of fact the received view of people with expertise in this area.

Susanne

8 day(s) ago

The paper she published under her victim's name has been removed from Disability Quarterly. However, the reason for retraction is that the victim is actually just a plagiarist.

George

8 day(s) ago

Hervaeus,

I guess in your opinion the first-person testimony of the victims can be ignored, yes? You didn't see the books listed in my previous post?

"The field has reached consensus..." - references?

There's a person running for the Senate in Alabama who could use your help. I'm sure he would appreciate someone with a Ph.D. in philosophy explaining to the public why a fourteen-year-old is capable of consenting to the advances of a lawyer in his thirties.

Richard

8 day(s) ago

Hervaeus,

I guess in your opinion the first-person testimony of the victims can be ignored, yes? You didn't see the books listed in my previous post?

"The field has reached consensus..." - references?

There's a person running for the Senate in Alabama who could use your help. I'm sure he would appreciate someone with a Ph.D. in philosophy explaining to the public why a fourteen-year-old is capable of consenting to the advances of a lawyer in his thirties.

George

Don't get trolled so easily.

Henry

8 day(s) ago

Hervaeus,

I guess in your opinion the first-person testimony of the victims can be ignored, yes?

We certainly don't ignore testimony, but it has to be evaluated holistically. Who is being accused? What do we know of that person's political stance? I think it is fair to say that the work of de Beauvoir and the fact that she is from an oppressed group, etc. carry a log or weight here. Similar considerations apply to Stubblefield. I see that you want to be reductive, but the first thing you learn when working in the epistemology of of rape is that all such claims must be evaluated holistically. Individual charges cannot be considered in isolation.

Richard

8 day(s) ago

Ok now I'm just going to enjoy the trolling. It's pretty high-grade stuff

Jakob

8 day(s) ago

As the widely published online author Justin Weinberg has emphasized, it's important for children to learn philosophy.

Simone de Beauvoir set the bar high. What better inducement for a schoolgirl to learn, than being kidnapped and fucked by a major feminist professor?


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