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Where are the Weinsteins of philosophy?

Gerolamo

15 day(s) ago

How come we’re not seeing fresh accusations? Is it possible the femphils have already milked every possible case? If that’s true I’d say sexual harassment is quite mild in philosophy.

Hippocrates

15 day(s) ago

Michael Tye.

Eduard

15 day(s) ago

John Searle

Cyrano

15 day(s) ago

John Searle

Eduard

We're really on the bleeding edge of philosophy gossip, eh?

Giambattista

15 day(s) ago

I've Tyed myself up befuddled by exactly this question.

Zhou

15 day(s) ago

See, no new names surfacing.

Friedrich

15 day(s) ago

Well, that's reassuring

Fujiwara

15 day(s) ago

How come we’re not seeing fresh accusations? Is it possible the femphils have already milked every possible case? If that’s true I’d say sexual harassment is quite mild in philosophy.

Gerolamo

The femphils care about real harassment cases as much as Weinstein does.

Giulio

15 day(s) ago

Harvey Weinstein is a feminist. Isn't that an extremely instructive clue?

Marie

15 day(s) ago

David Schmidtz.

Sarah

15 day(s) ago

Yeah, it is possible. It is also possible that psychopathic, invisible three-headed donkeys are roaming the plains of Iowa. Any reason to think that it is actual that all the sexual malfeasance in philosophy has been revealed?

Perhaps you intended the following argument by your two questions:

(1) If no one has a disincentive to reveal a harasser among some group, then likely all the harassers in that group will be revealed.

(2) No one has a disincentive to reveal a harasser in philosophy.

:: All the harassers in philosophy have been revealed.

(2) is false (just think for seven seconds about drawing that kind of attention to yourself, and perhaps, time permitting, other possible consequences), and (1) is probably also false.

Please feel free to correct my reconstruction.

How come we’re not seeing fresh accusations? Is it possible the femphils have already milked every possible case? If that’s true I’d say sexual harassment is quite mild in philosophy.

Gerolamo

Stephen

15 day(s) ago

There's no need to worry. If the femphils ever managed to milk every possible case, and if no more cases were forthcoming, they would simply adjust the standards of either proof or malfeasance such that there would already be more cases. Were there no cases, it would be difficult for the femphils to continue to weave their spell and dominate the profession as they have been doing.

Bertolt

15 day(s) ago

Fucky McFuckface.

Giambattista

15 day(s) ago

Slutz McGee.

Pythagoras

15 day(s) ago

Colin "Massive Girth" McGinn.

Kaibara

15 day(s) ago

The femphils care about real harassment cases as much as Weinstein does.

Fujiwara

This. Sexual harassment and all the other problems that SJWs claim to address are pretexts, not purposes. Hollywood spends decades preaching to the whole country about the dangers of teh evil menz, and then it turns out that the worst men were in Hollywood all the time. It's the same in philosophy: the Schliessers, the Stanleys and the Pogges are almost always in the progressive camp.

Gongsun

15 day(s) ago

McGinn is a clumsy old fool who made a pass on a woman and failed. That's a completely different creature from Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Leon Wieseltier, and the other holier-than-thou feminists we hear about from Hollywood and the leftist media.

Gillian

15 day(s) ago

Related question here. Remember the 'pussyhats' who marched to protest Trump's inauguration? Where are they now? Why aren't they marching against Hollywood and the leftist media?

Gillian

15 day(s) ago

What about this plausible explanation? The people who coordinate the SJW campaign in philosophy are progressive ideologues made from the same wood as Harvey Weinstein. They are now putting their campaign on hold for a while because they're afraid they might lose control and they and their cronies would end up exposed in the chaos. Look at what's happening at Vox, NPR, Rolling Stone, the New Republic. That must be scary.

Sengzhao

15 day(s) ago

What about this plausible explanation? The people who coordinate the SJW campaign in philosophy are progressive ideologues made from the same wood as Harvey Weinstein. They are now putting their campaign on hold for a while because they're afraid they might lose control and they and their cronies would end up exposed in the chaos. Look at what's happening at Vox, NPR, Rolling Stone, the New Republic. That must be scary.

Gillian

I don't think they are that smart to make such an argument. And, even if they were, this would apply only to the US. I don't see any similar crackdown on pedophiles and harassers in canada or europe.

Michal

15 day(s) ago

Don't underestimate them, because they're not all like Shelly Tremain. Look at Ned Markosian, a smart SJW who probably knows what he's doing.

Syrianus

15 day(s) ago

I don't think they are that smart to make such an argument. And, even if they were, this would apply only to the US. I don't see any similar crackdown on pedophiles and harassers in canada or europe.

Sengzhao

The UK government and press is obsessed with cracking down pedophiles, and this has been true for over twenty years. There has been a huge government inquiry (IICSA) running about it for several years. A large number of people have been rounded up in this, including many entirely innocent people: Cliff Richard, Lord Bramall, Paul Gambacini and many others.

Mohammed

15 day(s) ago

I can think of a number of names that are not public, but I am not going to post them to an online forum because I do not want to be sued.

Sengzhao

15 day(s) ago

Don't underestimate them, because they're not all like Shelly Tremain. Look at Ned Markosian, a smart SJW who probably knows what he's doing.

Michal

of course you're right. I wanted to be ironic.

Sengzhao

15 day(s) ago

I can think of a number of names that are not public, but I am not going to post them to an online forum because I do not want to be sued.

Mohammed

well, it would be good to go to trial, if we have actual evidence. the point, I think, is that we know of a lot of creepy colleagues and we can easily make wild guesses on their private life, but in most cases we dont have any actual evidence. for example, I don't have evidence on any philosopher. I heard stories and I see much creepiness, but nothing more than that.

Susanne

15 day(s) ago

Victor Kumar

Aristo

14 day(s) ago

By "Weinstein of philosophy" do you mean someone who is a serial sexual assaulter or do you mean someone who is a serial sexual predator?

For example, Pogge arguably is both, and maybe Ludlow is, too. But Ludlow is at least a serial sexual predator. On the other hand, lots of philosophy dudes serially sleep with other philosophers. Does that make them serial sexual predators?

What about philosophers who serially sleep with non-philosophers? Are they Weinsteins?

Aristo

14 day(s) ago

I am not in principle opposed to outing serial assaulters on this forum. That makes a lot of sense, in fact. But, single men who hit on lots of women, while gross, shouldn't be outed on here.

And men, like at least one famous philosopher I can think of, who dated a lot of philosophy women before they settled down one of them definitely shouldn't be named on here, even if they were dating lots of grad student women first.

Norman

14 day(s) ago

On the other hand, lots of philosophy dudes serially sleep with other philosophers. Does that make them serial sexual predators?

What about philosophers who serially sleep with non-philosophers? Are they Weinsteins?

Aristo

That would make the vast majority of the population predators or Weinsteins for no reason. People serially sleep with people.

Promiscuity is a whole different thing that I don't encourage, but it's not 'predation' and it would be morally stupid to pretend otherwise.

Judith

14 day(s) ago

On the other hand, lots of philosophy dudes serially sleep with other philosophers. Does that make them serial sexual predators?

Aristo

Also, lots of philosophy dudettes regularly sleep with other philosophers, and even more with non-philosophers. Are these women serial sexual predators too, or do we have different, lower standards of purity for them?

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