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Leiter on "Post-truth"

Nicolai

107 day(s) ago

The fact that Trump makes people like you so upset may be the strongest reason to support him.

Archytas

“The fact that Trump makes people who get upset by Trump get upset may be the strongest reason to support him.”

So what you’re saying is that your strongest reason for supporting Trump is entirely trivial.

Slow clap.

Liu

Trump makes hysterical women and noodle armed "males" upset. If that's your trivial substitution, well, that is hardly doing the work you want. After all, one hopes that a good leader would indeed go out of his way to make whiners and complainers upset.

Liu

107 day(s) ago

You haven’t avoided triviality. The only data you had in this case was the upsetness / complaining / factual descriptions of Trump which justify, or perhaps render morally obligatory, upsetness and complaining.

Nicolai

107 day(s) ago

No, I have plenty of evidence that you are a total faggot.

Liu

107 day(s) ago

If having the minimum intellectual and moral capacity required to correctly diagnose what a disgusting and stupid cretin Trump is means “being a total faggot” ok sure I am a total faggot. If instead you’re using a homophobic slur to insult and intimidate, well then congratulations: you’ve just corroborated the theory that Trump supporters are just as stupid and immoral as Trump.

Justus

107 day(s) ago

Trump seems a nice guy. Other than being a bit orange, why don't you like him?

Nicolai

107 day(s) ago

ok sure I am a total faggot.

Liu

Yes, this is common knowledge.

Liu

107 day(s) ago

Trump seems a nice guy. Other than being a bit orange, why don't you like him?

Justus

A perfectly adequate list has already been supplied above.

I have to say, it’s pretty hilarious and rather telling that some people here get upset by Justin Weinberg but are perfectly happy with Trump. Hilarious and sad.

Hsi

107 day(s) ago

OP here again.

I think this should go without saying, but obviously the purported Trump supporter who keeps using the word "faggot" is a troll sent here to discredit the forum. It is the same tactic we saw used here not too long ago when someone started a thread ranting about Jews, a thread, I should add, that was quickly downvoted into oblivion.

It seems to me that we are witnessing another attempt here to poison the well.

Which really just goes to emphasize my original point that there are forces at work who will do anything to keep people distracted from what matters.

It's a classic disinformation and propaganda technique.

Liu

107 day(s) ago

Why did the “faggot” comment get 7 upvotes then?

Hsi

107 day(s) ago

Why did the “faggot” comment get 7 upvotes then?

Liu

That obviously was part of the plan too, which is exactly why you've drawn attention to it right on cue.

Again: this is pretty basic stuff, but I note it for the record just so that people like you can't twist it to support your sick agenda.

I once again refer everyone to my original post, because that's what matters.

Chia

106 day(s) ago

bump

Abdullah

106 day(s) ago

That obviously was part of the plan too

What does this mean? That the troll accounted for all of the upvotes himself, and also ensured that none of the genuine users of this forum downvote it? Because as I write this it sits at 11-1.

Jaakko

106 day(s) ago

I didn't downvote. That's because I skip these comments without touching them. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Susanne

105 day(s) ago

Leiter has been post-truth his entire life. He's a Marxist, which means he doesn't base his political beliefs on evidence or reason.

Umberto

105 day(s) ago

That's not what he thinks. But you're right...

Charles

104 day(s) ago

Leiter sneaks in a 33 reference in a blog headline (http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2017/11/trump-mafia-don-part-311.html) that links to a picture of Trump flashing the 666. haha. And they love the fact that most people still won't get it.

Gustav

4 day(s) ago

Leiter has been post-truth his entire life. He's a Marxist, which means he doesn't base his political beliefs on evidence or reason.

Susanne

What an incredible illiterate statement. Every serious Marxist scholar knows that the position doesn't even make sense without a robust conception of truth.

Hartry

4 day(s) ago

Leiter has been post-truth his entire life. He's a Marxist, which means he doesn't base his political beliefs on evidence or reason.

Susanne

What an incredible illiterate statement. Every serious Marxist scholar knows that the position doesn't even make sense without a robust conception of truth.

Gustav

But nobody said that Marxism makes sense, and you can have a robust conception of truth in principle even if you don't base your actual beliefs on it.



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